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Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
02 Jul 2023 06:32 #339882
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
"It is also widely considered to be an incredibly laziest way for a writer to raise the stakes or make their story seem more adult."
I think you've unwittingly stated why rape is a powerful thing to include in a story - isn't the horror of rape that a villain can consider it okay? The laziness of their motivation and the short-circuiting of their conscience (if they even have one) is what makes it as horrible as pulling a trigger. Though in the case of rape, it is worse because the victim has to live with it afterwards.
I don't think Moore uses it as an easy way out. I think the division of people's reactions to it does not = a valid criticism of the writer using it.
Not really many different ways to portray a rape. Many different ways to kill though.
I think you've unwittingly stated why rape is a powerful thing to include in a story - isn't the horror of rape that a villain can consider it okay? The laziness of their motivation and the short-circuiting of their conscience (if they even have one) is what makes it as horrible as pulling a trigger. Though in the case of rape, it is worse because the victim has to live with it afterwards.
I don't think Moore uses it as an easy way out. I think the division of people's reactions to it does not = a valid criticism of the writer using it.
Not really many different ways to portray a rape. Many different ways to kill though.
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02 Jul 2023 06:35 - 02 Jul 2023 08:45 #339883
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
I also feel that Moore consciously uses rape precisely because it is NOT the easy option. All the varied ways some writers choose to kill characters, it creates a kind of blaseness about the act of murder itself. Whereas, rape is rape. Why is it society has less problems with murder than with an act that doesn't kill, leaving the victim alive afterwards?
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02 Jul 2023 12:41 #339887
by dysjunct
Replied by dysjunct on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
You signed up to necro a 7yo thread specifically to defend a tangent about rape as a plot device?
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02 Jul 2023 15:56 #339890
by Shellhead
Replied by Shellhead on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
Aside from Neonomicon, I don't find fault with any specific rape scene in Moore's work. He is one of the greatest comic book writers, and his use of rape in his work is always critical to the story. My objection is that he seems to include a rape scene in each of his stories, and that is troubling and also possibly a creative failure in an otherwise talented writer.
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02 Jul 2023 18:26 #339893
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
I had no idea it was 7 years old. Not got time to be that attentive.
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02 Jul 2023 18:28 #339894
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
Why? He has V. grisly murders in all his works too, but that's easier to stomach?
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02 Jul 2023 18:36 #339895
by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
You've made your viewpoint and feelings very clear on the topic of this seven year old thread, please stop trying to troll people into a fight for no real reason.
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02 Jul 2023 18:41 #339896
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
Are you talking to me?
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02 Jul 2023 19:02 #339897
by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
Yes, everything about this whole thread revive stinks of "debate me" combative trolling so it's off on the wrong foot. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, feel free to address more modern topics on the forums as a new member. Welcome.
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02 Jul 2023 20:22 #339898
by Drew32
Replied by Drew32 on topic Alan Moore says he's retiring from comics
I read Providence last week. Was searching today online for explanations about the ending. Came across this thread. Commented on what I saw as reactionary responses to Moore's oeuvre.
And this will be the last time I post here. Congrats on being a paranoid control freak.
Think you'll find that the combative response came from someone pointlessly mentioning the thread was 7 years old.
And this will be the last time I post here. Congrats on being a paranoid control freak.
Think you'll find that the combative response came from someone pointlessly mentioning the thread was 7 years old.
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